The following observations from Jacqueline Lichtenberg fascinate me:
“As I see our “reality,” humans are an integral part of the physical universe. Humans have free will, the freedom to choose our course through life. A natal chart limits your options, of course, but it also provides unique new options. We craft our life through free will choices – choices make a difference. But no matter what course we choose, we are on a journey toward soul maturation, toward wisdom.
Thus while I love a good alternate universe story, based either on the theory that there are either exactly eleven alternate universes or on an infinite number, I can’t see how alternate universes work in terms of soul growth from experiencing the consequences of choices and actions.
That is, if at every point of choice in your life you actually make all possible choices, generating a plethora of alternate universes – are you splitting your soul? Generating new souls? How does one soul learn if there are no definite consequences of choices, i.e. all choices get chosen?
In such alternate universes, you may meet alternate versions of yourself – or “you” might be dead, or never born. So what of your soul?
Vertical time travel, forward or backward, likewise poses me philosophical problems, but has more room to combine reincarnation with time travel. Perhaps you go back to teach yourself a lesson, or pay the price for misbehavior, or rescue a soul-mate, or even to change history to fix your current life.
Which brings us back to the problem of alternate universes – if you travel back in time, every decision you make back then splits off more alternate universes. How can a soul learn anything in all the confusion?”
Jacqueline Lichtenberg (http://www.simegen.com/reviews/rereadablebooks/columns/0207.html)
Ah, such a good question. I think the underlying assumption of so many books on survival of consciousness, analyses of religious traditions, and the observations of “New Age” philosophies is that our soul is destined, or somehow intended, to “progress”. The concept of karma depends on the notion that questionable past behavior, misdeeds, unkindness, or cruelty of any kind will result in judgement and retribution in a future life. Most of what I have read on Near Death Experiences involves a stage where the soul must face his/her “life review” and confront the pain that he/she has caused others. There are entire books dictated from the “Other Side” where this process is revealed, and a multitude of authors in diverse fields of specialization seem to be in agreement that your actions in this life determine your future life, either on earth or in some nebulous “in-between” state.
I am profoundly uncomfortable with that assertion. If it is true that those who suffer in this life are simply working out bad karma, then we could reassure ourselves that when disaster strikes in Haiti, there is a cosmic purpose to it all, and the dead and dying are working out their debts from previous lifetimes–therefore, we don’t have to feel guilty or compelled to try to help, since this is all pre-ordained and pre-determined by forces greater than ourselves. Who are we to interfere with the justice of the Universe? On the other hand, I suppose, one could argue that if we don’t help or extend ourselves, we are damaging our own karma. The next time around, it might be us desperately clinging to life after a catastrophic natural disaster.
The problem with the entire concept of karma is that there is really no evidence for it. The late Dr. Ian Stephenson and Dr. Jim Tucker from the Division of Personality Studies at the University of Virginia carried out–and Dr. Tucker is still active in this area–the most extensive research into reincarnation anyone has ever attempted. Their findings after decades of research in multiple countries, do NOT support the notion of karma. There is no connection between one’s fortunes in a past life and one’s current situation. In other words, when this issue is studied in-depth, the entire idea that we progress spiritually over time is called into question. While the concept of cosmic justice is very appealing to us all, we have to base that belief on faith, since the evidence shows otherwise.
This brings me to a second common assumption: we have free will, and we can choose when, how, and why to act. Therefore, we can control our destiny. Recently I read a fact that floored me in Dr. John Turner’s Medicine, Miracles, and Manifestations: A Doctor’s Journey Through the Worlds of Divine Intervention, Near-Death Experiences and Universal Energy, which leads me to believe that perhaps there is no such thing as free will. Brain and consciousness research have demonstrated that our brains decide to act fractions of seconds BEFORE we are consciously aware that the decision has been made. In other words, the brain is actively plotting out our next moves before the action occurs, before we can initiate the behavior or the action, and certainly before we are aware of having made a choice to act. For Dr. John L. Turner, a neurosurgeon, consciousness has not been demonstrated to exist within the brain–he believes it comes from without, not within, and his conclusion is upsetting: our decisions are pre-programmed. Free will, as we are consciously aware of it, does not exist.
So far, we have evidence for two theories: karma does not actually exist, and we do not possess free will. To these, I will add a third from Ms. Lichtenberg’s quote above: quantum mechanics postulates the existence of multiverses, where various versions of “us” exist in different states of being. We are split into various levels–or dimensions, or fields–of existence based upon choices we make. If every decision splits us into sub-categories of universes, then there are infinite numbers of us out there, following different tracks. What does that mean for free will? If we are free to make any decision we wish, but that decision creates a division and a new reality for the person who made said decision, then we have countless versions of “us” evolving differently. How can those other versions possess anything like a soul or an identity? There can be no “original” of us, since this process of undifferentiated splitting has been going on continuously since we came into existence, or since we were able to make decisions–which begs the question, how do we define the term, and at what point in our development were we capable of consciously “making a decision”?
I have my issues with the “multiverse” theory in quantum mechanics, but let’s allow that it could be true. If we are not held accountable for our actions in another life, then what happens to us after death is fairly random or determined by human decisions regarding such mundane issues as a desire for revenge, a need to continue a relationship with a particular person, an obsession with a place or family member, or some secret motivation that has nothing to do with progression towards the Divine. Now, if it’s true that the brain is somehow receiving signals from an outside source (non-local consciousness) and that we are not aware of the programming but simply following the Plan (from whence, I wonder, does this pre-programmed Plan come?), then we do NOT make free choices, but follow a script that was already written for us. Who or what wrote that script is beyond my capacity to theorize. If we are blindly following a pre-written Plan, then we do NOT control our destiny, we cannot assert that we are moving towards soul evolution, and we can only hope that someone or something provided us with a decent template for our lives. Otherwise, we’re just screwed.
Now add to all this the idea that there are multiple versions of us in countless splinter universes, and the belief that we are evolving over time or that we are becoming closer to the Divine is simply untenable. For one thing, there are apparently many of us, without awareness of the future or an ability to control it, and without a system of rewards or punishments for our behavior and actions. What are we left with? I’m not sure, but it’s not Heaven and it’s not Nirvana. It appears to be an endless recycling of consciousness following a track, a plan, or a cycle over which we have no control or input. However, if my decisions split me into different possibilities, then the idea of free will creeps back into the picture. Maybe one particular version of me is a lazy, depressed and narcissistic another version of me is productive, happy and deeply engaged with the world; but that would require the lazy, depressed version of me to make a decision to be otherwise–in which case, am I the living result of a conscious decision that another version of me has made?
OK, so my head hurts now, and I should probably end these speculations. What makes sense to me at this point is that we shouldn’t expect life after life to appear radically different from what we are experiencing now. Reincarnation is not necessarily a moral evolution or a compass that leads us to a better self, or to God. If we experience life as chaotic, random and unjust, we will probably experience the next life in the same way. If we experience this life as purpose filled, divine and awe-inspiring, it makes sense that we would continue to experience life that way. Whether or not we control the blueprint of our existence(s) may not be as important as how we perceive our reality, for our perception of ourselves and our lives will certainly create all the worlds we inhabit down the line, as it determines the content of our world as we are living it now.
Well, assuming you believe in the soul- where do they come from? Are they generated during the creation of the body? Is there a big box of souls – a “soul bank,” to coin a phrase- that loads bodies with souls? Either way: if alternate realities generate new bodies, won’t they automatically become ensouled by their creation? How can we possibly know how many souls can be created (or installed)?
What about this?
As a great man (Douglas Adams) once wrote: “Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space.” At the same time, there are a limited number of elements (and combinations of those elements). Somewhere along the way, patterns have to repeat. Somewhere out there, the pattern that is our Earth has been repeated. On that other Earth, an alternate you is reading a message identical to this one written by alterna-me. And the pattern must have repeated many many times. Do all of these identical people have identical but seperate souls? Do they share one ubersoul?
As for me: I don’t believe in souls. We’re here, we live very short lives in a very tiny space, then we disappear. I want to enjoy my tiny speck of existence without causing too much misery for the other specks in my immediate vicinity.
The terminology always hangs up discussions about these matters–“soul” is a term that has become so loaded with religious associations that many people find the word distasteful or useless. I prefer to think about these issues differently, as “consciousness”. The fact is, no one has ever been able to “locate” consciousness as a by-product of the brain, and there is considerable evidence that consciousness is exterior to the brain, yet interpreted and expressed through the brain. Of course, there are many who disagree, but for the sake of argument, if consciousness comes from somewhere else, brains “tune in” to it differently. Brains are unique mechanisms that filter and experience consciousness in unique ways. Of course, that begs the question: do we NEED a brain to experience consciousness? I have no idea. If the whole idea of repeated Earths and repeated selves is true, it could be that we share consciousness, that there are replicas. That doesn’t mean each one of us has a unique, unrepeatable “soul”–because if consciousness is a field of operations–as quantum mechanics suggests that it may be–then it doesn’t have to be unique to us–it can be shared. Granted, that kind of reduces the individual to something less than special and one-of-a-kind–but it makes sense to me that there are aspects of conscious awareness that are collective, and not unique to the individual. I may feel myself to be “me” and that no one else can be “me”, but I might be mistaken there–what constitutes my sense of identity might be common to several people. What suffers under my interpretation is the idea that who we are is utterly original and that my soul is MY soul and will always remain intact with me. I think Nature is the great recycler and reuser of consciousness. We have the illusion of separateness, but in reality it’s all a big ONE. . . but in life, billions of brains believe that they are interpreting reality in a completely unique way–not so. There is one reality with infinite variations.
I posted a very long comment here, and got no error message or captcha dialogue. Perhaps my comment was too long and you didn’t get it. I can post it on another blog.
Jacqueline Lichtenberg
http://jacquelinelichtenberg.com
Jacqueline,
I didn’t get it, but I would love to read it, so if you don’t mind, send it to kirstenthorne@gmail.com and I’ll post it myself. Sorry about the technical troubles on the site. I hope to hear from you soon!
RESPONSE by Jacqueline Lichtenberg:
“The concept of karma depends on the notion that questionable past behavior, misdeeds, unkindness, or cruelty of any kind will result in judgment and retribution in a future life.” (K. Thorne)
I would phrase that differently, and I’m not sure the difference makes all that much difference. But here’s how I’d put it:
The concept of karma depends on the notion that questionable past behavior, misdeeds, unkindness, or cruelty of any kind will result in CONSEQUENCES.
“Judgment” and “retribution” preclude an important dimension in human consciousness — “epiphany” or awakening or “seeing yourself as others see you” and experiencing the horror and pain and revulsion your past actions deserve from your Self.
If that awakening happens before the consequences, then the consequences will be one thing (not so bad, but a definite balancing of the scales).
If that awakening doesn’t happen soon enough, the Soul finds itself in a huge mess that causes — with whatever force necessary — the awakening.
It’s not retribution or judgment or punishment — just consequences.
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“Most of what I have read on Near Death Experiences involves a stage where the soul must face his/her “life review” and confront the pain that he/she has caused others.” (K. Thorne)
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I have read that the accepted theory is that we’ll be asked to judge someone and will watch the pivotal life deeds of that person and announce a judgment — only to discover that the person we have judged is our own Self.
We don’t get to judge anyone else. But we must judge ourselves. That’s how we learn and grow.
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“If it is true that those who suffer in this life are simply working out bad karma, then we could reassure ourselves that when disaster strikes in Haiti, there is a cosmic purpose to it all, and the dead and dying are working out their debts from previous lifetimes–therefore, we don’t have to feel guilty or compelled to try to help, since this is all pre-ordained and pre-determined by forces greater than ourselves. Who are we to interfere with the justice of the Universe? On the other hand, I suppose, one could argue that if we don’t help or extend ourselves, we are damaging our own karma. The next time around, it might be us desperately clinging to life after a catastrophic natural disaster.” (K. Thorne)
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I would look at it very differently by re-thinking that one “THEREFORE” assumption.
“therefore, we don’t have to feel guilty or compelled . . . “
There are maybe a thousand logical steps between “what happened in Haiti” (or the tsunami or any disaster or war-ravaging) and the “feel” part of the statement.
I think there are people who get mashed in these disasters and wars that are not experiencing this death BECAUSE OF something done in the past. And there are those Souls who need this shocking call to spiritual awakening or they just won’t make it. And there are those who are starting out on some new course. It’s a mixed bag. It can happen to anyone at any time.
Life isn’t about avoiding disasters, avoiding getting mashed, or AVOIDING per se.
Life is about DOING not AVOIDING.
So the people who are getting mashed have no more in common with each other than you and I do. Mashing happens. Could happen to us tomorrow.
Now, given our awareness of a massive mashing in progress — our actions and reactions will generate consequences FOR US. (pre-TV we weren’t on the hook until some newspaper article reached us, by which time it would be too late)
Today, you have options, and must make one of those CHOICES that generate alternate realities or usher your Soul into an alternate future track, or whatever it is.
1) You can withhold charity in a snit of “it’s their fault, let them suffer”
2) You can give charity just to uphold your public image, or as a sop to a guilty conscience, or for some truly unworthy reason.
3) You can respond to the plight you see on TV with a rush of empathy, and give charity with tears in your eyes and a prayer in your heart.
Theory has it that withholding charity has serious negative consequences. But GIVING (for any reason or any motivation whatsoever) has positive consequences.
I’ve never known anyone who came to harm by giving charity. I’ve known a few who came to grief for the lack of giving. Experience is a great teacher.
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“While the concept of cosmic justice is very appealing to us all, we have to base that belief on faith, since the evidence shows otherwise.” (K. Thorne)
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Again, I don’t follow the reasoning over the logical leap. I don’t see why the theory of cosmic justice (karma) having no evidence WE CAN FIND means that we must therefore either dismiss it or “believe on faith.”
Put yourself in the position of the Creator of the Universe and consider what you are creating when you create Adam, and finish off the process of creating Souls. (theory has it that all the Souls were created right at the Beginning, but maybe that’s not true).
Even you, with your limited human intelligence, wouldn’t leave ANY EVIDENCE behind of what you’d done or what was in store for the Souls.
The whole point of creating TIME which was just about the first thing Created after Space.
Light is photons and they don’t exist if they don’t move through SPACE, “move through space” IS Time.
Theory has it Souls enter manifestation through the dimension of Time — which I wrote about in my review column for January 2007, “The Soul Time Hypothesis” just previous to the one under discussion here.
You can find all the 2007 review columns at
http://www.simegen.com/reviews/rereadablebooks/2007/
2010 is now being posted. This column started in 1993 and all of it is available at http://www.simegen.com/reviews/rereadablebooks/
So as I see it, there’s a third option. To continue to conduct our life (to DO rather than AVOID) on the theory that we cannot prove the existence of the Soul, never mind reincarnation, because Souls and the Creator are very real, but in truth don’t “exist” (i.e. are not part of the Space-Time Continuum but are nevertheless real).
This theory makes no sense until you absorb the notion that Time itself is discontinuous. That’s a biggie.
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“. . .for Dr. John L. Turner, a neurosurgeon, consciousness has not been demonstrated to exist within the brain–he believes it comes from without, not within, and his conclusion is upsetting: our decisions are pre-programmed. Free will, as we are consciously aware of it, does not exist.”
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Well, yes, isn’t that what I just said above. The Soul does not “exist” which is the whole POINT of the Soul-Time hypothesis.
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“Now, if it’s true that the brain is somehow receiving signals from an outside source (non-local consciousness) and that we are not aware of the programming but simply following the Plan (from whence, I wonder, does this pre-programmed Plan come?), then we do NOT make free choices, but follow a script that was already written for us; who or what wrote that script is beyond my capacity to theorize.” (K. Thorne)
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The outside source may be (in at least some instances) your Self.
By the way — there is a theory explaining the internal structure of The Soul as multi-leveled with energy flows binding the levels together. It’s as complex as the study of the Atom. Remember the Greeks defined “Atom” as the smallest indivisible particle of matter. We discovered something and called it Atom, then discovered a whole bunch of moving parts within it. Now we’re chasing a meson that may be the origin of the property of matter called Gravity.
So going with this theory of Soul levels, it’s easy to see where that “outside signal” is coming from.
Now cross-correlate all this Brain Chemistry research with Astrology and Tarot, and it instantly becomes clear how these crazy theories can all interlock and produce the very simple solution that Occam’s Razor demands.
I write a lot about Astrology and Tarot on the co-blog where I post on Tuesdays.
http://aliendjinnromances.blogspot.com
If you’re interested in Tarot sliced and diced via Kabala you can find 20 posts on that by working back from the links in
http://aliendjinnromances.blogspot.com/2007/12/10-pentacles-cake-comes-out-of-oven.html
You need Astrology to understand TIME, and Tarot to understand SOUL, then you put them together with the Soul-Time hypothesis and you get a totally different picture of Reality As We Know it than our ambient culture portrays.
The feature of “Free Will” becomes resonantly clear as a necessary hypothesis from this synthesized point of view. It’s the pristine elegance of the solution that makes it so appealing, not the yearning for “justice” in the world.
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“Now add to all this the idea that there are multiple versions of us in countless splinter universes, and the belief that we are evolving over time or that we are becoming closer to the Divine is simply untenable.” (K. Thorne)
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Well, again there’s a piece of the puzzle left out.
The “multiple versions” of is in countless splinter universes vision is not complete without the “bandwidth” theory.
The POINT of the exercise, if the “multiple versions” model holds true, is to unify all our selves and all our splinter-universes, to pull it together so that “everything else” is the same across huge numbers of splinters.
Didn’t you watch the TV show SLIDERS? Especially when it moved to scifi channel (precursor to syfy channel today). That TV scifi channel version of SLIDERS had behind it a guiding light who was familiar with James Blish’s 1950’s novel, JACK OF EAGLES, which explained the then-current theory of Alternate Universes in layman’s language. (theory has evolved enormously since. String Theory and Dark Matter explain a lot! So maybe they’re right and there are in fact 11 and just 11, not more or less, alternate realities.)
“Adjacent” universes, so the bandwidth theory goes, are identical. Thousand and millions wide, a “band” is all the same, except for minor variances (say the color of someone’s hair). So by that theory, maybe the job of Souls is to unify the universes. And if the new discoveries are right, and there are only 11 — maybe we’ve almost succeeded getting them unified?)
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“Whether or not we control the blueprint of our existence(s) may not be as important as how we perceive our reality, for our perception of ourselves and our lives will certainly create all the worlds we inhabit down the line, as it determines the content of our world as we are living it now.” (K. Thorne)
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Again, the solution to the conundrum lies in learning more, not throwing away information because it seems to contradict other information.
The key disciplines that bring it all together into a single unified theory of Free Will guiding us directly (and with impeccable elegance) toward the Creator are Kabala and Astrology. Tarot is the most accessible entre to Kabala so I use that a lot, but it’s really about the model of the universe, not cards or foretelling the future.
–Jacqueline Lichtenberg
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I`ve been wondering about those things for a long time. My journey led me to Michael Newton – books about his work, There is also an interview where ke discusses about souls etc. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnCr4etOZLw ) I`ve just finished his book titled Destiny of souls. I think you will find a lot of answerst to your questions there 🙂 About free will, blue print of our lives, journey of our souls and where does it lead us, about souls in general, karma…. Yeah, 🙂 I`ve been wondering about those things for a long time, exploring religions too, but nothing really fit what I felt. There was always something missing. But Now I think I`ve finally arrived and everything makes sense to me now…. 🙂 I HOPE YOU FIND YOUR ANSWERS TOO:
Love, Barbi
I love your writings above, and am most pleased to see the many similarities in my own views about the same subjects…
Not to criticize, but hopefully to add perspective and more material to contemplate ?
First off, about your interpretation that we ‘receive’ consciousness from an external source ?
If you would allow me my own interpretation of the same subject :
Your thought pattern is correct, but your interpretation could be not as it actually may work…
Firstly, after, well, a very long time, I realized that the soul resides not in the abdominal region as some cultures swear by, but within the Heart, in a tiny space, unseen by the ‘naked’ eye called by the ancient Hindu’s ‘The Sacred space in the Heart’ (in the Hindu ‘Veda’s’). The pulse running through our hearts is the non-physical ‘link’ between everything physical within this universe (it is in other words holo-fractal in nature, and life ‘flows’ within it, from very big scales, to very small ones). Ever going down, until maximum point of ‘expansion’ is reached, then it falls back upon itself in opposite polarity, and contracts back into the starting ‘boundary’ it had left off with, which in this case is still presumed ‘the singularity’ before the Big Bang…then it starts all over. Identically to every detail ? I honestly don’t know. Not every breath is the same either, and I know the same should apply on all scales of manifestation. But it follows a simple principle of polarity. Expansion and contraction, in repetitive cycles.
Consciousness, imho at least, lies within us, always and ever, and in a very particular place that shifts its physical ‘location’ of existence and awareness in very predetermined and REPETITIVE ‘cycles’, which are hidden in plain sight, above us in our night sky. The importance of the Zodiac and the constellations is much more important regarding this than is to be believed.
Consciousness can only ‘reside’ in two places, according to the ancient astrological principle of polarity, under which the entire universe obeys its ‘cyclic’ flow, according to the ancient astrological principle.
It can reside either in the mind, or in the heart. The fact you believe that consciousness is an external force we ‘receive’, is because your consciousness, your ‘awareness’ is currently FOCUSSED to the external ‘sensories’ we can use, …the 5 senses (and the sixth if you can reach that which is already within you, burried deep within and be able to use it externally).
Note: According to the ancient Egyptians, we have 360 senses, of which 355 are actually ‘internal’ senses and can only be used from reaching for them within you, by focussing your awareness within.
Both the heart and the mind are each others equal ‘opposites’. The mind is male, electric in nature, the heart is female, magnetic in nature. Emotions coming from the heart are magnetic in nature, it either pushes away the ones around you during negative emotions, or it attracts others around you through positive emotions. The mind creates a mental ‘pattern’, electrical in nature, of everything it witnesses and processes, and ways out the possibilities before deciding what is ‘right’ or what is ‘wrong’…in other words it is the very thing that creates all the POLARITY around us…good and bad, right and wrong, benevolent or benign, false or ‘true’, etc…The Heart, when governed by true ‘unconditional love’ towards everyone and everything does not do that, as it act out of intuition that is always and automatically of good ‘intent’. Sensations and emotions, when fully controlled and truly ‘intended’ for the good of self and others never creates any polarity, thus no ‘karma’. Which is the point we arrive at that particular confusion about it not existing. It exists, and extends , imo, throughout your entire incarnational path…every lifetime. Karma also ‘obeys’ the rule of polarity. If you do harm, harm will be done to you some way or another. If you steel, some place, some time, the same to you, etc…you kill, you get killed, maybe in the next life, maybe in the same,…
We now ‘live’ in our minds, ever creating/manifesting polarity in our physical world by focusing through the mind and let IT make decisions for you. It acts like a filter between your true ‘awareness’ and the external world, which is in truth imo a mirrored reflection of our ‘inner’ world, within our heart, because of the holo-fractal principle it is tied to.
Once, long ago during the mid and end-time of Atlantis (Age of Aquarius, of which we are now only ‘starting’ to make the first baby-steps again), we had learned to live in our hearts, meaning, our consciousness ‘shifted’ back into our hearts and we acted out of pure and good intent, straight from the heart, with it in control in stead of the (over)-protectiveness of the mind towards self and others. 2012 was about entering that ‘polarity’ again (the upwards flow of the cycle). The Mayans ware correct in using their calendar system as wheels within wheels, representing repetitive cycles from smaller to larger scales. Quite brilliant, and must have been remnant wisdom from the Age of Atlantis.
We are now slowly and gradually shifting our awareness into our hearts once more. That is the Golden Age, when we live truly within our hearts. That is what we are slowly heading for once more. So although strubblings may still lie ahead, be assured that the destination will be peace, love and happiness once more amongst the human race, for an extended period of time.
When the mind takes over again during the downward flow of the cylce, it will do its job as usual in protecting self (and others), and offers us the ability to survive in ‘harch’ circumstances, but causes the side effect of many sufferings, hurt and death, in other words creating Karma. The rub is that the circumstances or the Karma are caused by the mind itself, creating polarity in everything it manifests in its protective mode…(meaning for every good there has to be a bad). Karma can only be created from a manifestation that was created in polarity.
Now really contemplate this and see the logic amongst the confusion. It is all about polarity. the entire universe, galaxies, star-systems, biological life (from a WIDE time-perspective), atoms, … and their ‘cyclic’ repetitive flow, which causes a downwards flow and an upwards flow.
About the issues you are noticing regarding multiverses and combining it with the process of reincarnation, would you hopefully be able to consider and/or contemplate the possibility for the actual ‘purpose’ of these infinite versions of ourself, leading the same life simultaneously, each in its own direction(s) depending on ‘choices’ ? Imo that purpose is very simple. A phrase that holds the key to understanding this : there can only be ‘one’ !
You know, the whole concept of ‘the chosen one’ ? I am more and more finding clues that this entire concept is misunderstood, and that misinterpretation is also shown intended in things like movies and other ‘media’ type stuff…just to try and keep that truth hidden in plain sight, but forced to misunderstand.
It is also the theme in many cultures and its prophecies, but could really be a very well method from our ‘ancients’ of hiding parts of the truth in cultures and religions…and science. In stone, because only that would pass the test of time.
And they certainly did have science well above our own standards. Just take a close look at the Great Gizeh Pyramid. Sacred Geometry is just one of many other examples, btw also hidden in every ancient constructions around the world, AND in perfectly aligned locations. There is no such thing as ‘coincidence’ in that regard.
These multi-verses, meaning from a philosophical and maybe scientific perspective, that out of all those different lives you live parallel in time, but not in ‘occupation’ of same space, only ONE is truly ‘destined’ to succeed in the task(s) he/she had previously, as a soul, set as its goal(s) in order to proceed with its next incarnation ? Only one that actually “graduates” out of them all ? And there is one destined to do exactly that for every single soul ?
The above theory, given from a more philosophical perspective, supports both multiverses and reincarnation, and even has the potential to kind of blend in with the underlying science, given the fact one keeps a very open mind. And its details are actually very well hidden in all the worlds religions, some pure still, some tampered with… some partially, some completely lost, but each remaining one partially in their own ‘interpretation’ of what they witnessed and experienced, and could only explain as they understood it in the ‘context’ of their time and age. All the ancient myths is what that refers to…
If the above would be true, the ramifications would be evenly astounding though, and raises even more and more questions…
~Cyrus
“Humans have free will, the freedom to choose our course through life.”
It is very easy to understand that we do not have freewill. Just ask yourself – have you ever done anything without any reasons? Of course not! You never did. That means your reasons came first and then you took your actions. Thus your present action was guided by your past reasons. So you do not have freewill at the present moment.
Freewill appears as illusion, because the gaps between reasons and actions can be as small as 200 milliseconds, which will not be recognized by our normal senses. However, this gap can be very long, days, months, years also. Take a look at the yogic power, destiny, and reincarnation chapters for many other types of proofs and examples in https://theoryofsouls.wordpress.com/
Take a look at what my latest post–let me know what you think. It goes into some depth on the free will issue.
Please give the link to your latest post.
https://professorparanormal.wordpress.com